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If you have a bug to report or a suggestion that you want to make, first read what's already on this page, the [[/archive|archives]], and the [[FMenu/FAQ|FAQ]] to see if your question has already been answered, and if not, click the '''+''' at the top of the page (next to the '''edit''' tab) and tell me about it! I will get back to you here and appreciate your feedback.
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=Thank you=
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Not a bug report (though mine's been [[#Random_Quitting.3F|disappearing]] too occasionally), but I want to thank you for this fantastic app. Now I can be sure to be distracted by Facebook at any time of day, without even opening my browser! Facebook really will cost me my degree!
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Feel free to remove this; I just wanted to say thanks! [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Smiler_jerg smiler] 08:16, 11 May 2007 (BST)
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:Thanks for the kind words. I really wish the crashes would stop, but I will integrate infinite sessions into the next release so that at least it won't be necessary to log into the app each time you start it up. [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 03:36, 11 May 2007 (EDT)
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=Bug reports & suggestions=
 
=Bug reports & suggestions=
If you have a bug to report or a suggestion that you want to make, first read what's already on this page as well as the [[FMenu/FAQ|FAQ]] to see if your question has already been answered, and if not, click the '''+''' at the top of the page (next to the '''edit''' tab) and tell me about it! I will get back to you here and appreciate your feedback.
 
  
== Problem with ZIP archive? ==
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== Future Features ==
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Not sure if this is feasible, but it would be fantastic if you could do things through the program, e.g. poke specified people. Or if that wasn't possible, it should be fairly easy to link to the relevant page - the /poke.php? bit makes that easy, right? Just a thought. --[[User:82.43.144.131|82.43.144.131]] 18:48, 12 February 2007 (EST)
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:This is definitely doable. I'm thinking of using keyboard modifiers for each action – for example, pressing option-enter instead of enter to send a message, ctrl-enter to poke, etc. What do you think? [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 20:47, 12 February 2007 (EST)
  
I can't open the archive—StuffIt Expander 10 stalls approximately 95% through and doesn't start again, and StuffIt Expander 11 returns an error. Is there a place for me to download the app that's not compressed? [[User:129.137.158.156|129.137.158.156]] 16:06, 29 January 2007 (EST)
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:This is similar to the question above I think, but would it be possible to make the keyboard shortcuts usable without having to click on the menu icon ie. being able to open the quicklaunch panel (which i think is great) --[[User:70.158.150.128|70.158.150.128]] 15:24, 13 February 2007 (EST)
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::I really want this as well, so I will try to get it into the next release. It is definitely doable. [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 23:08, 12 February 2007 (EST)
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:::You know what would also be super great, the ability to have the cursor automatically appear inside the QuickLaunch Panel when it is launched, and when you complete a search that the panel would disappear. Then my life would be complete. --[[User:Loudestnoise|Loudestnoise]] 16:51, 15 February 2007 (EST)
  
:Never mind, it seems I got a bad download from the link on the wiki. It worked the next time I tried it. [[User:129.137.158.156|129.137.158.156]] 16:18, 29 January 2007 (EST)
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Also, possibly a Quicksilver plugin? that would be awesome. --[[User:82.43.144.131|82.43.144.131]] 04:45, 13 February 2007 (EST)
::Hm, that's weird, but I strongly discourage anyone from using Stuffit at all. Mac OS X's built-in BOMArchiveHelper.app does the job much better. Happy to hear that you were able to resolve the problem, however.[[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 21:04, 29 January 2007 (EST)
 
  
== Friends opting out of Terms of Service and Update frequency ==
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I'd love to see the ability for the app to update our status with what we are currently listening to in iTunes. Not sure if this is technically possible but would be really cool to see implemented! [[User:99.237.4.226|99.237.4.226]] 14:46, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
  
I have three questions.  First, exactly what effect does it have when a friend unchecks the Terms of Service box?  Will FMenu not even be able to tell me when they poke or message me?  Second, is there any way I can tell which friends have opted out of this?  My third question is how frequent is "too frequent" for the update frequency?  How frequently can I have it update without hitting the request limit?  Thanks!
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* I would like to be able to choose which notifications I receive.. for example I don't want to see profile updates. If this is already a feature, I can't find it. [--[[User:97.87.111.56|97.87.111.56]] 17:32, 23 July 2008 (EDT)]
:Here we go!
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**Choosing which notifications you get is done via the Growl preference pane. You can open it easily from FMenu's preferences.[[User:Lensovet|lensove†]] 00:32, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:#If the friend unchecks this box, they are completely invisible to the program. That means that anything about ''them'' is inaccessible, like their profile and their status. However, when they poke ''you'', this is still accessible, because it is ''your'' information that's retrieved to find out the number of current pokes. So anything they do to you is available, because your info is retrieved, but anything they do to their profiles is not.
 
:#Yes, there is. click on the arrow at the right of the text field in the Quicklaunch panel. That lists all the friends that are available to you through the app <s>(in a random order, unfortunately)</s>, which are alphabetized by first name as of version 1.5.
 
:#This is essentially a guess-and-check process. As of version 1.4, it appears that 7 seconds is in fact the most frequent update interval. I personally  had it running with 6 seconds, but that would randomly give me incorrect notifications.
 
:Hope that clears things up a bit!&nbsp;[[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 14:40, 3 February 2007 (EST)
 
  
== FMenu and Growl notifications ==
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== Updating status ==
  
Great app, but a couple of suggestions.
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It would be cool if you could update your own status using this program.
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:<s>This would indeed be very cool, but unfortunately implementing such functionality is at this time against the Facebook API's [http://developers.facebook.com/tos.php Terms of Service]. You should e-mail them at developers-help@facebook.com to let them know that you want such a feature so that they are aware of the interest. [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 16:57, 21 February 2007 (EST)</s>
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:This is now possible with extended API functions and I will look into implementing it for the next release.[[User:Lensovet|lensove†]] 19:32, 18 April 2008 (EDT)
  
1. It would be nice if you could click on the Growl notifications and be taken to the relevant page, e.g. if my friend updates a status and I click, it goes to her page or if someone posts on the wall, it takes me there.
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== QuickLaunch Cursor ==
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When using the QuickLaunch feature it would be amazing if when you either click on the menu item, or use the keyboard shortcut that the cursor appears within the text box.  Reducing the use of the mouse or trackpad is always a nice thing.  Additionally the ability to launch QuickLaunch without having to click on the FMenu icon would be amazing. If I could set a global OS X shortcut to do this or something. My life would be complete. Or perhaps some kind of quicksilver intergration with the QuickLaunch feature. Oh the possibilities. --[[User:Loudestnoise|Loudestnoise]] 17:14, 2 April 2007 (EDT)
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:Hey there, the text box should now gain focus as soon as the QuickLaunch panel gets focus as of the latest version (2.5). I'm still looking at implementing a system-wide shortcut for getting Quicklaunch to appear, however. Hopefully in the next version :) [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 01:49, 5 July 2007 (EDT)
  
2. The menu icon should also indicate whether people have posted or not. Perhaps by colour or counter?
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== Status Updates with Profile Pictures? ==
:#Thanks! The first one is definitely something I will be looking into, hopefully soon.
 
:#As for the second one, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. What do you mean by "whether people have posted"? Posted what? Wall posts? Please clarify...thanks again! [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 14:47, 11 February 2007 (EST)
 
Basically, I think the Fmenu icon should have status indications. So if someone posts on your wall, it would be nice to have a number or something appear by or on the icon to let you know.
 
  
== Future Features ==
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So, obviously, Growl shows the FMenu app icon in the notification.  Would it be possible to change that icon (in the Growl notification) to the Facebook profile picture of the person the notification is referring to?
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This wouldn't apply in all situations, but it would work amazingly well for status updates.  (Can you tell I'm a Twitteriffic user?)
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Also, personally, I don't care much for the "now" that is inserted in the status update messages.  I think it throws off the flow of some updates, since people don't expect it to be there.
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But seriously, this is an amazingly great app, and it's head-and-shoulders above the other amateur-ish work that's being done with the Facebook API.  Thanks.
  
Not sure if this is feasible, but it would be fantastic if you could do things through the program, e.g. poke specified people. Or if that wasn't possible, it should be fairly easy to link to the relevant page - the /poke.php? bit makes that easy, right? Just a thought. --[[User:82.43.144.131|82.43.144.131]] 18:48, 12 February 2007 (EST)
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--Thomas Duesing--[[User:138.38.226.204|138.38.226.204]] 22:48, 13 May 2007 (EDT)
:This is definitely doable. I'm thinking of using keyboard modifiers for each action – for example, pressing option-enter instead of enter to send a message, ctrl-enter to poke, etc. What do you think? [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 20:47, 12 February 2007 (EST)
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:Thanks for the encouragement! I've just checked in a change that allows you to choose the phrase inserted into status update messages [http://fmenu.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/fmenu/GNotifier.mm?r1=47&r2=46&pathrev=47 to be anything you want].
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:As for your other suggestion, it's definitely doable, but I think I'll hold off that for a bit. Currently I'm working on crash-proofing the app (and preventing memory leaks), ignoring bad results coming from the server, and supporting infinite sessions so you have to log in once...forever. I'm also adding upcoming events and groups to Quicklaunch. Look for a new release this week!
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:Thanks again. [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 02:03, 21 May 2007 (EDT)
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::The release is out and will let you change the phrase used in the notification as I mentioned. Using photos from friends' profiles is something I will look into for the next version. [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 01:49, 5 July 2007 (EDT)
  
:This is similar to the question above I think, but would it be possible to make the keyboard shortcuts usable without having to click on the menu icon ie. being able to open the quicklaunch panel (which i think is great) --[[User:70.158.150.128|70.158.150.128]] 15:24, 13 February 2007 (EST)
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== Delayed sleep ==
::I really want this as well, so I will try to get it into the next release. It is definitely doable. [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 23:08, 12 February 2007 (EST)
 
  
Also, possibly a Quicksilver plugin? that would be awesome. --[[User:82.43.144.131|82.43.144.131]] 04:45, 13 February 2007 (EST)
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Hi -- I posted this over on the Facebook FMenu Users page, sorry for the reposting, but it's unclear where bug reports should go...
  
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When I have FMenu running, there is a 27-28 second delay between initiating sleep and when the system actually starts sleeping. The screen goes blank, but the mouse cursor remains on the screen. After the delay it starts sleeping normally. Without FMenu running, sleep is immediate.
  
How about auto updates? I'm pretty sure theres a cocoa plugin which helps with that (Adium, cyberduck and others use it) --[[User:212.85.20.100|212.85.20.100]] 04:14, 14 February 2007 (EST)
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No messages in system or user logs. Here is my configuration: PB G4, OS X 10.4.11, FMenu 3.0, Growl 1.1.4
  
== Duplicate notifications ==
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== Bug 3.1 ==
  
I keep getting the same notifications over and over. I have moved my interval up to 30 seconds thinking it could have been cause by too frequent of an interval but I am continuing to see duplicate messages. It's a series of 5 or 6 messages, same messages each time.
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As of 10th June 2010, roughly, launching FMenu 3.1 via login items or through normal launch causes the application to hang.
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The icon is grey and the QuickLaunch bar appears.
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Sometimes this flashes constantly and then dies after 5 minutes or so.
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Activity monitor on Intel says nothing is wrong, but G5 says that application is not responding.
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I have tried deleting the pref and the application and reinstalling, but nothing improves.
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This also has an issue on my G5 Mac.
  
I have the exact same problem and it is the same two updates from the same exact person. --[[User:70.158.150.128|70.158.150.128]] 15:24, 13 February 2007 (EST)
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Was checking little snitch activity, and FMenu is trying to communicate with the api.facebook.com, but then after some minutes the et services stops the connection.
:If the update you're getting is "XXX has updated his profile", that means that they are actually updating their profile that frequently. If it's something else, let me know. Thanks. [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 00:48, 13 February 2007 (EST)
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I have Facebook Notification installed aswell and that is working fine.
  
The one that keeps repeating for me is "XXXX wrote a new note" and "XXXX has updated her profile"  It is always the same person and I've looked at their profile and it doesn't look like it's changing to me. --[[User:70.158.150.128|70.158.150.128]] 15:23, 13 February 2007 (EST)
 
  
I can verify the above problem.  I have one friend that has consistently showed up as "XXXX has updated her profile" and "XXXX wrote a new note."  They show side by side, often with any other events from other friends.  Its been showing up nonstop since I downloaded it two days ago.  She only has one note from last year, so she hasn't written a new note every 5 minutes over the last two days.  --[[User:146.151.11.242|146.151.11.242]] 03:24, 14 February 2007 (EST)
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NOTE! A system restart made the login window appear and all works now.
:Wow, I just started getting this myself. Will def look into it. [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 11:54, 14 February 2007 (EST)
 

Latest revision as of 04:11, 14 March 2011

FMenu version 3.1 was released on January 17, 2010 and includes stability improvements, UI changes to keep up with site updates, and full Snow Leopard compatibility. Note that there are now separate downloads for users of 10.4 and everyone else.

It is now 2023 and Facebook's API has changed significantly such that this app no longer works. The way that people use Facebook has changed dramatically as well. Growl no longer exists. Perhaps one day this app will come back — or not.

If you have a bug to report or a suggestion that you want to make, first read what's already on this page, the archives, and the FAQ to see if your question has already been answered, and if not, click the + at the top of the page (next to the edit tab) and tell me about it! I will get back to you here and appreciate your feedback.

Thank you

Not a bug report (though mine's been disappearing too occasionally), but I want to thank you for this fantastic app. Now I can be sure to be distracted by Facebook at any time of day, without even opening my browser! Facebook really will cost me my degree!

Feel free to remove this; I just wanted to say thanks! smiler 08:16, 11 May 2007 (BST)

Thanks for the kind words. I really wish the crashes would stop, but I will integrate infinite sessions into the next release so that at least it won't be necessary to log into the app each time you start it up. lensovet 03:36, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

Bug reports & suggestions

Future Features

Not sure if this is feasible, but it would be fantastic if you could do things through the program, e.g. poke specified people. Or if that wasn't possible, it should be fairly easy to link to the relevant page - the /poke.php? bit makes that easy, right? Just a thought. --82.43.144.131 18:48, 12 February 2007 (EST)

This is definitely doable. I'm thinking of using keyboard modifiers for each action – for example, pressing option-enter instead of enter to send a message, ctrl-enter to poke, etc. What do you think? lensovet 20:47, 12 February 2007 (EST)
This is similar to the question above I think, but would it be possible to make the keyboard shortcuts usable without having to click on the menu icon ie. being able to open the quicklaunch panel (which i think is great) --70.158.150.128 15:24, 13 February 2007 (EST)
I really want this as well, so I will try to get it into the next release. It is definitely doable. lensovet 23:08, 12 February 2007 (EST)
You know what would also be super great, the ability to have the cursor automatically appear inside the QuickLaunch Panel when it is launched, and when you complete a search that the panel would disappear. Then my life would be complete. --Loudestnoise 16:51, 15 February 2007 (EST)

Also, possibly a Quicksilver plugin? that would be awesome. --82.43.144.131 04:45, 13 February 2007 (EST)

I'd love to see the ability for the app to update our status with what we are currently listening to in iTunes. Not sure if this is technically possible but would be really cool to see implemented! 99.237.4.226 14:46, 15 July 2008 (EDT)

  • I would like to be able to choose which notifications I receive.. for example I don't want to see profile updates. If this is already a feature, I can't find it. [--97.87.111.56 17:32, 23 July 2008 (EDT)]
    • Choosing which notifications you get is done via the Growl preference pane. You can open it easily from FMenu's preferences.lensove† 00:32, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Updating status

It would be cool if you could update your own status using this program.

This would indeed be very cool, but unfortunately implementing such functionality is at this time against the Facebook API's Terms of Service. You should e-mail them at developers-help@facebook.com to let them know that you want such a feature so that they are aware of the interest. lensovet 16:57, 21 February 2007 (EST)
This is now possible with extended API functions and I will look into implementing it for the next release.lensove† 19:32, 18 April 2008 (EDT)

QuickLaunch Cursor

When using the QuickLaunch feature it would be amazing if when you either click on the menu item, or use the keyboard shortcut that the cursor appears within the text box. Reducing the use of the mouse or trackpad is always a nice thing. Additionally the ability to launch QuickLaunch without having to click on the FMenu icon would be amazing. If I could set a global OS X shortcut to do this or something. My life would be complete. Or perhaps some kind of quicksilver intergration with the QuickLaunch feature. Oh the possibilities. --Loudestnoise 17:14, 2 April 2007 (EDT)

Hey there, the text box should now gain focus as soon as the QuickLaunch panel gets focus as of the latest version (2.5). I'm still looking at implementing a system-wide shortcut for getting Quicklaunch to appear, however. Hopefully in the next version :) lensovet 01:49, 5 July 2007 (EDT)

Status Updates with Profile Pictures?

So, obviously, Growl shows the FMenu app icon in the notification. Would it be possible to change that icon (in the Growl notification) to the Facebook profile picture of the person the notification is referring to?

This wouldn't apply in all situations, but it would work amazingly well for status updates. (Can you tell I'm a Twitteriffic user?)

Also, personally, I don't care much for the "now" that is inserted in the status update messages. I think it throws off the flow of some updates, since people don't expect it to be there.

But seriously, this is an amazingly great app, and it's head-and-shoulders above the other amateur-ish work that's being done with the Facebook API. Thanks.

--Thomas Duesing--138.38.226.204 22:48, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for the encouragement! I've just checked in a change that allows you to choose the phrase inserted into status update messages to be anything you want.
As for your other suggestion, it's definitely doable, but I think I'll hold off that for a bit. Currently I'm working on crash-proofing the app (and preventing memory leaks), ignoring bad results coming from the server, and supporting infinite sessions so you have to log in once...forever. I'm also adding upcoming events and groups to Quicklaunch. Look for a new release this week!
Thanks again. lensovet 02:03, 21 May 2007 (EDT)
The release is out and will let you change the phrase used in the notification as I mentioned. Using photos from friends' profiles is something I will look into for the next version. lensovet 01:49, 5 July 2007 (EDT)

Delayed sleep

Hi -- I posted this over on the Facebook FMenu Users page, sorry for the reposting, but it's unclear where bug reports should go...

When I have FMenu running, there is a 27-28 second delay between initiating sleep and when the system actually starts sleeping. The screen goes blank, but the mouse cursor remains on the screen. After the delay it starts sleeping normally. Without FMenu running, sleep is immediate.

No messages in system or user logs. Here is my configuration: PB G4, OS X 10.4.11, FMenu 3.0, Growl 1.1.4

Bug 3.1

As of 10th June 2010, roughly, launching FMenu 3.1 via login items or through normal launch causes the application to hang. The icon is grey and the QuickLaunch bar appears. Sometimes this flashes constantly and then dies after 5 minutes or so. Activity monitor on Intel says nothing is wrong, but G5 says that application is not responding. I have tried deleting the pref and the application and reinstalling, but nothing improves. This also has an issue on my G5 Mac.

Was checking little snitch activity, and FMenu is trying to communicate with the api.facebook.com, but then after some minutes the et services stops the connection. I have Facebook Notification installed aswell and that is working fine.


NOTE! A system restart made the login window appear and all works now.