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== Problem with ZIP archive? ==

I can't open the archive—StuffIt Expander 10 stalls approximately 95% through and doesn't start again, and StuffIt Expander 11 returns an error. Is there a place for me to download the app that's not compressed? [[User:129.137.158.156|129.137.158.156]] 16:06, 29 January 2007 (EST)

:Never mind, it seems I got a bad download from the link on the wiki. It worked the next time I tried it. [[User:129.137.158.156|129.137.158.156]] 16:18, 29 January 2007 (EST)
::Hm, that's weird, but I strongly discourage anyone from using Stuffit at all. Mac OS X's built-in BOMArchiveHelper.app does the job much better. Happy to hear that you were able to resolve the problem, however.[[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 21:04, 29 January 2007 (EST)

== Friends opting out of Terms of Service and Update frequency ==

I have three questions.  First, exactly what effect does it have when a friend unchecks the Terms of Service box?  Will FMenu not even be able to tell me when they poke or message me?  Second, is there any way I can tell which friends have opted out of this?  My third question is how frequent is "too frequent" for the update frequency?  How frequently can I have it update without hitting the request limit?  Thanks!
:Here we go!
:#If the friend unchecks this box, they are completely invisible to the program. That means that anything about ''them'' is inaccessible, like their profile and their status. However, when they poke ''you'', this is still accessible, because it is ''your'' information that's retrieved to find out the number of current pokes. So anything they do to you is available, because your info is retrieved, but anything they do to their profiles is not.
:#Yes, there is. click on the arrow at the right of the text field in the Quicklaunch panel. That lists all the friends that are available to you through the app <s>(in a random order, unfortunately)</s>, which are alphabetized by first name as of version 1.5.
:#This is essentially a guess-and-check process. As of version 1.4, it appears that 7 seconds is in fact the most frequent update interval. I personally  had it running with 6 seconds, but that would randomly give me incorrect notifications.
:Hope that clears things up a bit!&nbsp;[[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 14:40, 3 February 2007 (EST)

== Duplicate notifications ==

I keep getting the same notifications over and over.  I have moved my interval up to 30 seconds thinking it could have been cause by too frequent of an interval but I am continuing to see duplicate messages.  It's a series of 5 or 6 messages, same messages each time.

I have the exact same problem and it is the same two updates from the same exact person. --[[User:70.158.150.128|70.158.150.128]] 15:24, 13 February 2007 (EST)
:If the update you're getting is "XXX has updated his profile", that means that they are actually updating their profile that frequently. If it's something else, let me know. Thanks. [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 00:48, 13 February 2007 (EST)

The one that keeps repeating for me is "XXXX wrote a new note" and "XXXX has updated her profile"  It is always the same person and I've looked at their profile and it doesn't look like it's changing to me. --[[User:70.158.150.128|70.158.150.128]] 15:23, 13 February 2007 (EST)

I can verify the above problem.  I have one friend that has consistently showed up as "XXXX has updated her profile" and "XXXX wrote a new note."  They show side by side, often with any other events from other friends.  Its been showing up nonstop since I downloaded it two days ago.  She only has one note from last year, so she hasn't written a new note every 5 minutes over the last two days.  --[[User:146.151.11.242|146.151.11.242]] 03:24, 14 February 2007 (EST)
:Wow, I just started getting this myself. Will def look into it. [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 11:54, 14 February 2007 (EST)
:Haha, now I get New note wrote a new note or profile updated his profile. --[[User:65.82.99.3|65.82.99.3]] 12:16, 14 February 2007 (EST)

::Just curious, to all who have reported this problem, what happens if you restart the app (or choose Logout from the menu and log back in)? Thanks... [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 21:38, 14 February 2007 (EST)
::Do try that as an interim solution, but I think that I've found the problem. Apparently the information sent by Facebook's API would sometimes contain profiles with a blank "name" field, and I think this is what was setting off the erroneous notifications. I'll be testing a [http://fmenu.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/fmenu/UpdateMethods.mm?r1=16&r2=19&sortby=date possible fix] to see if the problem goes away. I should have a new release out this weekend. Stay tuned and thanks for the reports! [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 22:28, 14 February 2007 (EST)
:::Any news on when we can see that update? I'd be glad to test it to see if it resolves the duplicate notification issue [[User:Loudestnoise|Loudestnoise]] 11:56, 24 February 2007 (EST)
::::I hope to get it out this weekend...however I have a question for you, are you still getting those duplicate updates? After putting in the fix I mentioned above, I still got a few bogus notifications...but since then they've gone away, and I never had them in the first place, so their cause is hard for me to track/figure out. Are you still getting repeated notifications? Thanks! [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 14:02, 24 February 2007 (EST)
:::::I have the newest version and I am experiencing the same problems I reported before (with new note/updated profile notifications appearing tandem, and alongside almost all other legitimate notifications.  It is from the same person all the time, and they have not made any new notes.  --[[User:146.151.11.242|146.151.11.242]] 16:54, 24 February 2007 (EST)
::::::Please try the newest version, which just came out, and let me know if this is still happening. Thanks! [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 03:52, 26 February 2007 (EST)
:::::::I have just updated to the new version and have yet to receive any duplicate or incorrect notifications. Will keep watching and hoping there are none to come. [[User:Loudestnoise|Loudestnoise]] 15:11, 26 February 2007 (EST)
::::::::Still happens. I even went ahead and used appzapper to remove all existing pieces of FMenu and install v2.0. Same exact person same exact notices as before. [[User:Loudestnoise|Loudestnoise]] 15:24, 26 February 2007 (EST)
::::::::Agreed.  I've updated and within 5 minutes have gotten the same person, same problem. --[[User:Shaun|Shaun]] 02:23, 1 March 2007 (EST)
:::::::::Check to see if that person has two separate facebook accounts. That happened to be the problem with the other user. [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 03:32, 1 March 2007 (EST)
::::::::::Indeed, this seems to have solved it.  Thanks!  --[[User:146.151.11.242|146.151.11.242]] 02:56, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

== Spinning Beachball ==

During normal use of FMenu sometimes the loading of the menu can take a minute plus during which when you mouse over the menubar and you see the spinning beachball of death. --[[User:Loudestnoise|Loudestnoise]] 12:14, 14 February 2007 (EST)
:I will look into this, but i'm changing the heading since the app never actually crashes. [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 13:49, 14 February 2007 (EST)

:Ha, this is true, my apologies --[[User:Loudestnoise|Loudestnoise]] 15:50, 15 February 2007 (EST)

== Solution to your authentication problem and one feature request ==
Use Apple Keychain
Why don't you use Apple's Keychain for the Username and Password of Facebook. When you start up the FMenu, you can get then the user/pass from the keychain and auto login. The user had to authorize the addition of the data to the keychain so you are perfectly valid in using that. This situation is what the keychain was designed for, just go ahead and use it.
:That is precisely what I plan on doing, I just need to figure out how to code it. [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 17:15, 14 February 2007 (EST)
Sparkle for updates:
The feature request I have is that you use the Sparkle framework for updates. That will allow us to not have to worry about updating and you'll get an auto-update engine for free.

Thanks,
Aslam
:Right, Sparkle requires an RSS feed with release info though, which is why it will take a bit to set up. I do plan on implementing it though. [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 17:15, 14 February 2007 (EST)

-=-
Follow up:

I'm so glad to hear you're going to be using Keychain. It's great to see developers use the awesome tools that Apple gives us. I'm sure you've already found this recently updated document but just in case, I found info on programming with the Keychain here: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Security/Reference/keychainservices/keychainServRef.pdf

Secondly, you probably know about this also but I found the easiest way to setup an RSS feed was to use iWeb (part of iLife) and create a Blog page. iWeb automatically creates an RSS feed for you and then you can use that to regularly update the feed. If that doesn't provide enough customization, then tools like PodcastMaker from potionfactory.com or FeedForAll (http://www.feedforall.com/feedforall-mac.htm) or one of the other RSS Feed builder tools that are available for OSX might be helpful.

== FMenu Going Nuts ==

A couple of times, I have had FMenu go nuts and start giving me notifications about all my friends, the same three or four notifications (new note, updated status, etc.), even though they had done none of the above. One time, it happened right when I plugged my MacBook into an external monitor. This went on ''ad infinitum'', repeating notifications. The notifications stickied, and even though I turned both FMenu and Growl off, they kept coming. It bogged my system down so much (and kept notifying) that I had to do a hard shut-down of the MacBook. I've had FMenu disabled since. --Carl Peterson
:I'm sorry to hear that you had such bad problems. I don't know why they were sticking; none of the notifications are set to sticky by default. I will be releasing a new version soon that will hopefully eliminate these repeated notifications once and for all, and hope that you will give it a try and let me know how it works for you. Thanks! [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 02:50, 21 February 2007 (EST)
::::I can hardly wait for the update. I've considered not using FMenu until the duplicates are fixed, but it's just so darn handy. [[User:Loudestnoise|Loudestnoise]] 12:39, 21 February 2007 (EST)

== Integration with Firefox? ==

Great work with this app.  I've been using the Facebook Toolbar for Firefox but I think I like this better.  My question is if there's any way to pick the browser you'd like to use with FMenu.  My main browser is Firefox and I would love for links to open in that instead of Safari.  I didn't see anything in the FMenu/Growl preferences so I'm guessing there's no way to change it from Safari currently.  Keep up the good work.
:FMenu just uses the default browser set by the system; this preference can be changed from Safari. Open Safari, then open its Preferences. In the General tab, the first item there should be "Default Web Browser:" – simply choose Firefox from that list. Thanks! [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 12:35, 22 February 2007 (EST)
::Awesome.  You would think something like that would be in the system preferences.  Thanks!
:::It used to be, up until 10.2, when Safari was introduced. After that they got rid of the pref pane. And people think Microsoft is bad ;) [[User:Lensovet|lensovet]] 22:27, 22 February 2007 (EST)